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The kind of client you are makes the astrologer you should get

Posted by Wroskopos on April 4, 2010


When in search for astrological insight, people are in loss of where to look in order to find a “good astrologer”. Usually a friend or chance dictates the astrologer who will delineate the client’s chart. A recommendation, or an advertising in a magazine, or an article about astrology that attracted our attention will point us to an astrologer.
It is hard to find a good astrologer but how do we classify “good”? A good theoretical knowledge and years of successful field experience should do it, no? Well, not exactly.

In 20th century, psychology became the absolute hype. The absolute fashion, the “it” thing to give us the most essential answers about the only thing we ended up caring for: ourselves. Being sad was renamed to being depressed and from a natural experience it was deemed a psychological disorder. Being rationally worried was renamed to having anxiety and stress.
The predominance of psychology spread its influence in many science and arts, affecting the Art of Prediction as well. Like what happened with psychiatry, astrology didn’t escape exaggerations and the focus on personal sentiments overcame a balance between events related astrology and inner reflections in a chart. What we ended up mostly having nowadays, is the most egomaniac and emotion-centered astrology in ages. Is that bad? Not really, a product is the result of a need. Many customers crave exactly that aspect of astrology, it would be perhaps short-sighted to dismiss that.

The average modern customer of an astrologer wants to hear about one’s psychological traits and the psychological impact of an incident rather than know what the incident will be. Is rare to find a customer who asks about hard cold facts like it used to happen in the far past. Is therefore, not a surprise or a coincidence at all, that we often see astrologers having some psychology studies and degrees, or astrologers presenting themselves as “life coaches”.
Once upon a time, astrology was factual. Back then it also was a science.

Is there anything wrong about this? Wrong and right are philosophical concepts, far too complex to be analyzed here. The fact astrology took a psychological turn, can be an addition to sociological theses as an aspect of 20th century industrially progressed societies but, it doesn’t necessarily render modern astrology a “bad” thing.
It would be an oversight not realizing things happen for a reason and the emotion-centered astrology is the product of the needs humans had in the last century. Many clients needed to know how a transit or natal position would affect their inner world, their sentiments and feelings. In their search for answers in “why I feel like this?”, “why am I feeling that bad/such a loser/so depressed/so unhappy/ so angry/so without HOPE?”, psychological astrology was one of the most common *tools* we could use to get the desired answers in the search of ourselves.

How is all this connected to what kind of astrologer one should find?

There are two main kinds of good and valuable astrologers you can find, the scholar and the phychologist. Their ethics and approaches differ:

1. The traditional scholar. She is very mercurian (a dignified mercury), she studies and then studies more and likes FACTS, proofs and is direct. She is cold comparing to the following category of astrologers and prefers truth than elaborate lies. Even if that truth makes you feel bad, is still the truth and is unethical to hide it.

2. The psychologist. She is tender and seems caring and considerate and will go in depths analyzing every petty or important FEELING you may experience. Facts are too mundane for her, if a fact is detrimental it is unethical to disclose it to the client. You will get a lot of compassion and understanding and probably accurate insights of your feelings that could be of help to your pshychologist.

To give a gross example of delineation from each type, let’s accept a possible future incident “client’s beloved dog dies in a hideous car accident”. Let’s assume that both our astrologers are very good and see the incident in the chart.
The 1st type will say something like “your dog will die next month and it will be a violent death but you will overcome it”.
The 2nd type will say something like “next month you will experience intense emotions, even shock but you will overcome it”.
It doesn’t matter which prediction is the better one – we can not dismiss either as objectively bad; only subjectively. One judges that by one’s personal preconceptions. For me, who are into traditional, factual, event, “objective” astrology, to tell me how I will feel without telling me why I will experience those feelings, is blurring the picture and hiding ; it is unethical. My feelings will not create that particular event, it is the event that will determine my feelings. In short, give me the CAUSE, not the psychology please.
For someone else, the vivid cold event prediction of the 1st type, can be a most unwelcome interpretation of no use except creating unwanted and detrimenting panic.

Bottomline?

Ideally an astrologer should mix discretion with Art and is hard to find a clear demonstration of the aforementioned 2 types; it is usually a mix. In every astrologer though, you will notice a certain disposition in the kind of readings they prefer doing and how they address them. In the modern times, you will find far more astrologers of the second kind, their mix being 30% facts- 70% emotion analysis. Kindness and understanding with all the truth and all the facts is an ideal conception – it is too tough to find the golden middle ground. Some areas are too hot to go into, death being one of those areas yet, some clients want to learn how and when they die while most hate even the mention of death.
No matter how typically good the astrologer is, what matters in the end, is how the client feels about their readings. What the client expects and wants is what sets the kind of astrologer they should get. They should find the astrologer that complies to what deep inside you are after. The judge of a reading is the client. Let’s see how two imaginary clients approach the readings.

Mary says: I got a reading from an astrologer of the 2nd type, I left the counseling with contempt. I didn’t need a self-appointed shrink, I would have gone to a real shrink if I wanted that. I wanted facts, I wanted to know about what happens in the future and all I got was generalizing about how I feel and the emotional paterns in my chart. Who cares about that – jee are there are people who are so dumb they can’t understand themselves? And what makes her think I am one of those? How insulting. What a waste of my time and money!

John says: I went to the 1st type and she was cruel and annoying. She even told me which of my parens dies first! I didn’t want that! It scared me, I just wanted to know why I feel so terrible since last year, why I am so sensitive and depressed and how to overcome this. Who cares if I buy a car next year – I want to know my true self. I will never go back, she tried to sound compassionate but she didn’t really care how I felt, was more eager to show off her expertise than to care for her customer!

If Mary and John switch astrologers, they will both get the counseling they want. They both will be happy with their astrologer. Before you reject astrology, try to get a reading from an astrologer that suits your needs and personality better.
If at the end, you do not find someone to satisfy you, then it may be time perhaps, to start learning astrology and find your own answers, the way you want them.



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Raping personalities with astrology

Posted by Wroskopos on March 6, 2010

In the world of astrology there is nothing worst than a biased delineation with sole purpose to defame an individual.

History, culture and socialization dictates our way of thinking through building the blocks of our moral system, nothing new in this. An astrologer, a historian, a reporter, anyone really, is a grid of concepts, beliefs and opinions that are built on judgments and prejudices. We analyze and our brain assigns attributes (judgments) to beings, items and situations.
We are bound to use our own terminology (that may look ok to us but might insult someone else). We are also bound to have certain preconceived approaches to subjects. That too is human and acceptable, if not downright expected.

In this article, I am not talking about interpretations on known proven criminals, even though they too carry a natural bias as we are directed by what we know. For example, a delineation of Hitler’s birth chart is bound to focus around any criminal tendencies that might be shown in his nativity.

I am not talking either, about a honest delineation that presents all arguments of the chart, then deciphers where the most indications lie. If – say – a chart has 5 indications of genius, 10 for insanity, 3 of humanism, is not out of reach to interpret the chart as that of an insane person that is also quite clever. The wrong way would be to focus on the minority of evidence and claim this chart is a sane philanthropist’s. Then again is only human to err.

What I am talking about here are the deliberate lies.
The intentional misinterpretation of nativities. The selective “amnesia” of the full meaning of an aspect or a planet position or a fixed star. The partial and biased interpretation of otherwise normal charts as monstrous derogatory conceptions.
When one goes to lengths in faking a delineation, focusing solely on negative notions of a natal chart, deliberately avoiding to mention the full meanings or – even worst – modifying and discriminating at ill will the meanings, in a manic attempt to debase an individual.
That, is NOT astrology. Is a premeditated and unfounded rape of someone’s personality and reputation.

And is downright hideous.



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Workshop by Deb Houlding

Posted by Wroskopos on March 1, 2010

Deborah Houlding will give a full day workshop in Amsterdam on March 7th.
I have no affiliation whatsoever with this but, a Deb workshop on Horary is hardly to be missed.

For further information click the link: asastrology.nl/deborah_houlding.htm

For the lucky ones that can attend it: enjoy!

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Combustion

Posted by Wroskopos on November 25, 2009

Sun is the brightest star in our solar system and has always been of great significance in both religion and astrology. A major influence in any natal chart, sun takes a back seat in Horary as the all mighty Goddess in our art is Moon. However, it maintains some critical importance in delineating horary charts as, besides being a possible significator or a ruler of a house, sun also has some unique attributes based on its very nature.
The strongest and most unlucky is combustion.

Combustion is the worst possible debilitation in any horary chart. Naturally, it is one of the main considerations in Horary. Lilly wrote:

And you must know that the combustion of any planet is the greatest misfortune that can be

and he mentions Arabs insisted on the obscure:

If the Lord of the Ascendant be combust, neither question propounded will take, or Querent be regulated.

Sun is hot and dry. Excessively hot. He burns every other planet that happens to be too close, even the moon. Any planet within 8 degrees and 30 minutes the Sun, in the same sign, is considered combust. It doesn’t alter its meaning if the conjunction is separating or applying (though is somewhat more powerful when Sun “hastens in conjunction” than when it recedes. It matters if they are separated from a sign cusp; combustion works ONLY if it is happening within a sign.
Keep in mind that sometimes, if the other planet is strongly dignified and has power over the sun (like being its domicile dispositor), it softens the impact.

Any planet suffering combustion, is rendered weak at the very best, downright malicious at worst.
The combust planet is extremely weakened, or shows mischief (especially in the case of Mercury), or shows “inability to be seen or heard”, or shows death, health detriment and so on, depending on what the planet being combust signifies and what matter the question is about. The fortunes lose their power to do good and the infortunes are rendered either weak or more malicious depending on their dignities.

If moon, without being a main significator is in combustion, gives a “not fit to be judged” chart, or gives a negative answer (the later especially if it is applying). You can go ahead and read the chart but you already have a red alert that something will go south.

If the querent’s significator is combust, is in “great fear”, overpowered by someone and/or hidden. I will add that, the querent may also find themselves facing some danger or trouble and upheaval.
If we ask about someone’s ability or dignity and his significator is combust, we can judge he is not good or suitable or honest.

“Is this lawyer a good one?” with his significator combust -> No, he is too weak or a swindler.
“Is she honest with me?” with her significator combust -> No, she is hiding something.

If you care to investigate further you will find out that there is dispute on the exact degrees of combustion but here, I will use Lilly’s choice of 8º30′ degrees. You can also find articles and books about the use of combustion in natal chart delineations.

“So, what if I ask a love horary and Sun is my sweetheart’s significator and my own significator is applying a conjunction to sun? Isn’t this combustion? Am I in danger?”
Yes it still is combustion and no, no danger here, but you are burning hot about your sweetheart, rendered weak due to your love and perhaps in fear of losing him/her. If though, in addition to that conjunction, moon is in Via Combusta, I would be cautious.
Context and common sense are important.

 

 

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Morinus – Astrology Software

Posted by Wroskopos on November 15, 2009

If you are searching for an astrology software that is able to do almost anything you ever asked for, search no more, you just found it! Morinus offers antiscions (right on chart), progressions In Mundo, synastry, revolutions, syzygy (prenatal lunations) and much more (for full list of its features, visit Morinus site). It works under windows, linux and mac, is fast and easier to use than any relative software I have tried so far.
So far never crashed on me even with 10 subfeatures open and trust me, I break everything.

Morinus astrology program by Rob

Is FREE of CHARGE

I still haven’t found whether it offers creation of composite charts or not. If it does, drop me a heads up on what I click to get that. ^^

 

Where to find it:

Morinus site 1
Morinus site 2

How to install:

You will find full and simple directions on how to install Morinus, depending on your OS. For windows, all you need to download is the binary file that you will find HERE: Morinus Zip.
Extract it and click the exe that will appear inside the extracted folder.

Small resume:

Abstract from the developer’s site,

I was born on November 21, 1973 in Bekescsaba, Hungary. I have a diploma in electronical engineering but I have always been working as a software developer(C/C++). This is my first python program. I am interested in the Traditions(Kaczvinszky, Hamvas, Guenon, Evola) in general. I am a candidate master chess player(peak rating was 2275).

 

Disclaimer: This post is NOT advertizing. Wroskopos blog has no affiliation whatsoever with the developers of Morinus software. The enthusiasm this post is written with, is of the computer geek that finds a great program that in addition is FREE of charge and that, of the astrologer who found a great tool for his work.

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